The Metaphysics of No Agenda

Mike Pay: The refinement process of this thing we do is very interesting to me because I analyze it probably far too often too far too much my own good. But you know, when Mark and I started doing the podcast, it was during the COVID era,. We just did Joe Rogan, Curtis Jarvin and Peter Kona as an ex-Aryan. It was kind of a throw together one. And what I'm interested in now doing is finding a link to in the second half of the show to get into more metaphysics and narrative and symbology.