Even at 15 dollars an hour, which puts you at about 31 and change, to be honest, in many parts this country that's poor, like that, you're poor. So i think that it helps make poor people feel more destitute when they realize everyone else is this thing called middle class and they are not. It reinforces the idea that there're somehow broken people, which i don't believe for a nano second. I belive there's like this mass ov no downward pressure, structural pressure, on so many people in the us. And if what we're trying to do is help people understand the only choice they have to improve their work life and their home life and their kid

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