The Evolution of Pen Testing

Carrie: I kind of see a big change in the way pen testing is happening, right? For years it was we're going to run a well, let's go back and look at vulnerability scanners. Then we started getting into assume compromise assessments like stuff that Carrie teaches in her class. The way that we do internals and compromise assessments post-accession is going to radically evolve over the next few years. It's not a bad thing. It's just a change. But are you at all surprised like, you know, getting the big players into doing this has taken them this long?