i have a real sense of urgency around what that five years is going to be. And i think this election for the united states in 20 22 is going toBe a really deciding factor, because it is this moment where am our political system is either going to be jerry mandard ever, and there is no getting democracy bats. It's like, once you sort of strip away the humanities and the arts, ah, you kind of endit in this moment. You do need some more awe, absolutely. I don't tesad it fit yet. There's a call to action inherent in what you're saying that is giving artists and creative people permission to dream their way out of

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