The first 20 minutes, I thought were. Why? What did they talk about for the first 20 minutes? Just like self-doubt hating yourself, how you're never ever going to get ahead. But could you imagine working on something for six years? Like a book? Because that's what he's saying impetus for, I guess, incoming on is to promote this book. No, I can't imagine. It really is crazy. The painting might sit on a wall for five years before you ever sell it. You've at least been making profit. If you start a business from scratch and you do it for six years, you've been working on it like it's a book