I think in general, I mean I said this a million times, but an interview is a party that you are throwing. And if you are a three dimensional person, it gives the other person the opportunity to be a threedimensional person back and so that's just an enormously powerful force. Your dad started out as a radio announcer, but then eventually became a certified public accountant. Have you heard any of his early radio announcements? He stopped being on the radio when he was in his early 20s. You recently had a birthday, a happy birthday. They met at a swimming pool when they were teenagers. They were married for nearly 50 years.