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Mary's Gone Crackers: Mary Waldner

How I Built This with Guy Raz

CHAPTER

The Tension Between Dale and Me

"They just had this kind of party line that, that everything we were doing was wrong," she says. "So it was very demeaning to me and that, and that was, you know, this kind of divide and conquer mentality." She adds: "I'm confused. How did they even have that kind of power?"

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