A lot of people are on the come up listening to this podcast and they're trying to or seeking fame. What are some of the trappings that they should be thinking about or looking for so that they get the good, but they minimize as much as the bad as possible? I think a thing that young 20 year olds don't recognize is that it is your cohort. You don't know exactly who in 10, 15 years, they're the guys.

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