i think part of the issue is, as youve been talking about max, like it's not even about trying to police our way out of poverty. And so where i cann't want to take this conversation though, is to this idea of nastalgia. Because even saying culture war has this kind of romantic sense that there was a time when we all shared culture. I'd love for you to talk about this kind of nast nostalgia piece from the time before culture consumed us all.

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