Putin's Invasion of Ukraine - What Does That Mean for Russia?

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Iman: If ukraine succeeds in defending its democracy and keeping the great majority of its territory, then i think eventually putinism will fail. One of the surprises to me of last weeks has been the strength of resistance in eu crane. But perhaps an equally big surprise has been the fact that europe has actually woken up to the fret putinposes. I had this long standing discussion with my colleague, g steinmar, the foreign minister, now president of germany,. who, as anpalet, has been to your home which you're ecording from right now.

Radosław Sikorski is a Polish politician and journalist who is currently a Member of the European Parliament. He served as Defense Minister of Poland from 2005 to 2007, and as Foreign Minister from 2007 to 2014.

In this week’s conversation, Radosław Sikorski and Yascha Mounk discuss whether a unified Europe could play a real geopolitical role on the world stage in the future, reasons to be skeptical of the realist view that NATO or the West is to blame for the war, and the role of sanctioning Russia (and Russians) now and in the future.

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