The Tension Between Creativity and Money

"I don't think I run a creator first business. I think I'm a business owner first and then all of my ways to be creative come after," she says. "When we bring them both together in business, like we're setting up certain tensions for ourselves that I think we have to I guess choose different ways to address or deal with." She was really burned out by her podcast at one point last year when it wasn't getting the job done. 'It's more like what do I need from life as opposed to what do I needs from my business'

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