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Breaking the housing deadlock with Allegra Spender
Democracy Sausage with Mark Kenny
The Importance of Materialism in Politics
The Greens have been really kind of interesting politically around the housing stuff. They sort of showed a level of maturity around negotiating on climate, right? Which I think is actually quite impressive given that it was not exactly easy for Adam Bant to land that deal with his incoming members. A lot of Greens MPs, especially their leaders until quite recently, are literally people who were jailed for protecting the environment. Like, that is a very different worldview to someone like Adam Bant, who has come through a different career path and a different trajectory. And he's more what we would call materialistic. He understands the politics very well, and he, he reads that, he plays that game quite well
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