Are You Seeing It in the News Everyday?

Antiu: I think governments are really on it. We're finding we're having a lot of those conversations with government. But the fact that it doesn't seem to be filtering down to a consumer level, to business level is disappointing. Shami: People are realizing that it is impacting their own behaviours. And once it's like I mentioned that the government in the developed world in the Pacific area sort of say, our electorate is announcing what on earth are you doing? These fires are happening and you're not doing anything. What's the plan?