J d vance is a figure of national importance these days, but he made his bones with a best selling memoir about growing up in white working class ohio. We wanted to talk to howard wilkinson, who knows the place and the people. Did you think about the bookah, i thought it was okme. I don't think it's a classic of american literature. There was a sense that j d vance was a kind of oracle who could explain donald trump's win to people who were quite surprised by it. Did you feel that in ohio? Or were you looking around the landscape in ohio and saying, we don't need anyone to explain