Bernardo Kastrup is an idealist philosopher and the executive director of Essentia Foundation. His work has been leading the modern renaissance of metaphysical idealism, the notion that reality is essentially mental. Avi Loeb is a Harvard Astrophysicist and best-selling author of books such as ''Extraterrestrial" and "The Elephant in the Universe". In this episode, we discuss the common areas in between their fields, such as consciousness, the existence of aliens, and curiosity within scientific research.