The Podcast Is the Thing That Gets You There

The start of it was, i need a vehicle to get me to know great people. And at the time, ah, i had made my money simply by having like four or five really close relationships with some people that just gave me a bunch of business. So i realized that the common thread between these people that i saw as having more success than me was they had a large number of relationships and were social. I would be an 80 year old person or 90 year old person who passed away trying to make a successful podcast.