The Question of Practical Results for Sunak

Do you think Sunak and his government will be judged as harshly as they seem to be inviting? Or do you think that in the end, this is more about generating political noise, picking fights, being seen to say something? Pippa: I think the practical results do come into it because he wants to be seen as a fixer. But you can't escape the fact that there are political benefits potentially risky, though it is, for Sunak.