Excel had a similar culture of like, let's go as deep as we can in the individual sectors and make sure we know every single player that exists in the space. And I did some of you need to play the game on the field as well and operate with imperfect information and be able to make decisions based on what is in front of you. It wasn't a controversial one at all. The only controversy on that one was that we didn't get to run our normal process of that the full group didn't get a chance to see it before we did it,. But we all felt that strongly about it.

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