Is Enlightenment Real?

iud: As practice deepens, you realize that these experiences are not the point. You're actually developing the capacity to have these experiences. And i think in the darma traditions, hinduism, buddhism, et cetera, it's less about having that particular experience and more about just suffering less. That's just training the mind. The real point is transformation that's lasting in the mind,. Not just states of mind, but stages of mind. Is enlightenment real? What does it even mean? It depends who's asking.