We are probably the lowest that we've been historically, maybe ever in terms of belief in the capacity of call it the public sector writ large to actually come together and do things outside of market incentives. We don't have trust in governments to lead something like a Manhattan project or many Manhattan projects around getting this right. There's not confidence that the public has in non-business leaders. And so that seems to be, to me, to be one really, really big challenge here.

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