I thought there was this strange part where he was sort of forcing me idea of using iPhones. I think what Joe was saying was in that specific instance of that scientist who was out there on his own, carrying the- you know, taking the least amount with him. It would make more sense now, given the quality, but- But we must have a camera that's the size of an iPhone, but that's a real great camera. Snow: People have been filming animals for a long time in all sorts of different ways. Of course they've figured out camera. The difference here is these guys have been embedded for 40 plus years.

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