"I realized in that unit, even being a very competent shooter, respected member of Special Forces and being a PT stud at the time," he says. "These guys aren't trained to be diplomats, to be fit experts, they're trained to kill bad guys." He was 29 years old as an E8 when he made it on the 'black list,' which is not advertised but means you are like an intermittent number that's not advertised. His wife has been his support through this whole thing; she doesn't have any kids now.