There's sort of a spectrum of strength of this idea of social construction, where some people is going to put it all in the mind. But you're very happy to say there are things there in the world and we're talking about the powers and impacts they have on the world as a feature of being, in part, socially constructed. Yoand it's like, i mean, so some people, even in philosophy, will say that there isn't a new thing the statue. There's just the lump of clay that is statue shaped. And so some people will want to say, there's not a new thing, the the social body over and above the biological body. Some people want

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