Why React Moved Out of Meta Governance

This months panel dives into Remix v3 without React, exploring its DIY VDOM framework and manual reactivity approach. We discuss the latest React Foundation governance changes and what React 19.2 brings, from the Activity component to useEffectEvent and server streaming support. The conversation also covers how the proposed H-1B $100,000 fee could affect tech hiring, thoughts on Firefox, the Perplexity and Washington Post paywall, and a spicy Tailwind vs CSS debate.

Links

Paige Niedringhaus
Website: https://www.paigeniedringhaus.com
X: https://x.com/pniedri
GitHub: https://github.com/paigen11

TJ Van Toll
Website: https://www.tjvantoll.com
X: https://x.com/tjvantoll
GitHub: https://github.com/tjvantoll
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tjvantoll

Jack Herrington
Website: https://jackherrington.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6vRUjYqDuoUsYsku86Lrsw
X: twitter.com/jherr
Github: github.com/jherr

Noel Minchow
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/noel-minchow

Resources

Remix v3 Dumps React for Pure Web Standards: The JS Rebellion That's Freeing Devs from Framework Hell!: https://bybowu.com/article/remix-v3-dumps-react-for-pure-web-standards-the-js-rebellion-thats-freeing-devs-from-framework-hell
Remix Jam 2025 Recap: https://remix.run/blog/remix-jam-2025-recap
Wake up, Remix!: https://remix.run/blog/wake-up-remix

Introducing the React Foundation: https://react.dev/blog/2025/10/07/introducing-the-react-foundation
useEffectEvent: https://react.dev/blog/2025/10/01/react-19-2#use-effect-event

Trump's $100,000 H-1B visa shock: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce3yy58lj79o

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Chapters

0:00 Intro
1:10 Remix v3 Breaks from React
4:40 Manual Reactivity Debate
7:45 Docs, Demos, and Developer Confusion
9:00 Framework Future and Web Standards
13:00 Shopify and Remix
14:00 React 19.2 + Foundation Shift
17:00 New React Features Discussion
20:00 React’s Backward Compatibility Wins
21:00 Why Meta Let Go of React
27:00 The $100K Visa Shock
32:00 Global Impact and Legal Fallout
36:00 What Companies Should Do Next
38:00 Hot Takes Begin
39:00 The Witcher 4 Trailer Debate
40:00 Firefox vs Chrome
43:00 Perplexity & Washington Post Drama
45:00 Dev Tools, Paywalls, and Browsers
46:00 Paige vs Tailwind
48:00 AI Writing Bad CSS
49:00 Outro

Special Guest: Jack Herrington.