You Know, I've Never Had to Execute a Layoff

When I joined in 2001, we had started laying off folks inside of sun. And it was very hard to get someone hired when we were doing layoffs. Not the norm, needless to say, for sun. The one of the challenges that you got, everyone, when there's a layoff, everyone wants to know who's been impacted. But this is the kind of thing you'd be interested to get color on inside a stripe.