William Petty understood Ireland pretty well and had some sympathies for Ireland. But he wasn't a person who had any experience of governing a place. He was hopeless with people, would tell them that they were ignorant and sad. So I didn't think he was temperamentally in any position to be a good governor. The period when William Petty and Henry Cromwell were together working on the business of the reconstruction of Ireland was very short. And so the evidence is there aspirations for a founder university. You could make it this great forward looking nation that could be, you know, kind of model for modernity could potentially have been very productive.

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