The Old Man's Bar in Washington DC

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"I don't think it's good that he's in Russia right now," Chris says of Edward Snowden. "The NSA is now examining its contractors you know putting them under the microscope" The Washington power people don't go to this bar, but a former NSA contractor was there and asked for an interview.

We check in with a few of our TOE regulars: Peter Choyce has is one of my oldest friends and a listener favorite, but he has a secret we’ve never addressed until now. We also check in with our D.C. correspondent “Chris” who tells us about the NSA’s desire to install backdoors in Podcasts. Also, I tell you the story about what happens when I wander into @psychic for a late night reading. PLUS: a few extracts from ‘Brand New World’

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