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Steven Heller

Design Matters with Debbie Millman

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What Happened Next?

In 1973, Brad Holland had a party wherein he met Ruth Ansel, the then art director of the New York Times magazine. He was looking for another job and wanted to be an art director. "She seemed to like what I did with type or she wasn't wearing her glasses" At screw we did other publications, some that weren't sexual.

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