"It feels like simon was not as deep into aliens until he got deep into rogan. And now it's, it's come to this weird spot where joe is now not deep enough into it, and you have surpassed," says kamar. "He turned me on to a subject to which i went headlong into... than now he wono oooo, now he wants to talk about it." 'There there has to be something to the fact that the military instruments are measuring the speeds and the am way these things are moving as something to be interested in,' she adds.

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