It does feel like a lot of the brands have made mistakes or missteps. So I'm curious, although you're humble, you also believe that you're going to somebody be number one in it. And so I believe you have the confidence based on your experience to deliver that. It is hard for me to think of a pudgy penguins misstep from a brand standpoint. Well, it does feel like there's this immense pressure to build in public. You've talked about it before that you love that pressure. The only justification why somebody has a higher floor price than us right now is either one Ponzi no mix or better whale management.

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