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180 | Experiencing The Mystery of Life With Wonder Instead of Fear with Jeff Lieberman

Science and Spirituality

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The Intelligence of the Depressive Period

Jeffrey Toobin: I don't believe that there's dire, I mean there is dire situations for sure but that it's impossible for our whole species to change because of the things you've been saying. Every critical movement in our evolutionary history was preceded by intense stress and incoherence. And so it actually gives me a really different non pessimistic view on all the conflicts that are happening.Toobin: If we're all living in enough of things are like this nothing's going to change exactly break down to create the next next breakthrough.

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