Today on Scratch That we bring you the disabled bromance of your dreams – Danny Kurtzman and Steve Way. You might know Steve from his role on the Hulu series Ramy, and maybe you recognize Danny from his modeling days, but most recently, these two have been in creative collaboration as the leading man (Danny) and executive producer (Steve) of the recent (gorgeous) film Good Bad Things. These two live out the themes of this podcast, literally rewriting the scripts of disability storytelling as actors, screenwriters, producers, and directors. And as they share about their own creative journeys, it's very clear they have a powerful friendship.
Starting May 13th, you can stream Good Bad Things on Hulu! Here's a link with all the places you can listen, watch, purchase, and supportđź’› Let's show the powers that be with our plays, hearts, and downloads that this is the kind of storytelling we crave!
Tune in to hear:
đź–¤ Steve tell us what it was like to grow up thinking he wouldn't live to be an adult.
🫧 Danny describe the gifts and curses of the bubble he grew up in.
👤 The gnarly ways internalized ableism has shown up in both their stories, and the revising/rewiring/rewriting they continue to do.
đź‘Š The potent power of friendship in rewriting our own scripts.
âť“ Steve tell us the simplest, most effective question his friends asked him when he was in a dark place.
⚡️ Danny's hot take on "inspiration porn."
đź“ş All the deets on their new film, Good Bad Things, and how this movie wouldn't exist without Danny seeing Steve on TV first.
Mentioned In Today's Episode:
Steve's hilarious standup.
The coach we all love and adore, Carson Tueller.
The 5-minute film, We'll Meet Again, Danny and Steve made for the 2025 Easterseals Disability Film Challenge. (Content warning – true to its prompt, this film is a genuine horror. As it looks at some of the darkest layers of ableism, it includes suggestions of suicide.)
NOT Mentioned In Today's Episode:
After we stopped recording, Danny reminded me that we try to ask all our guests to contribute a song to our collaborative Scratch That playlist, Songs That Have Held Us. Danny and Steve are both big fans of Mac Miller and our playlist now includes the song they chose – "Good News."
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