When did you start thinking about crypto as an asset class to start making work in some? So it was fixing up a long time. My background was initially fixed income. I was the most successful team at Gecko, which was like the fixed income team. When we went to tower, it was again focused on fixed income and we were very successful at bootstrapping that.

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