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174. Jordan Peterson — Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life

The Michael Shermer Show

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The Second Low of Thermodynamics

"I'm a pretty self motivated person, and i don't really feel like i ever need self help books. But i get a lot out of reading your books," he says. "There's just more ways for a blob of sand to be nothing than there are for the sand to destructure in the form of a castle,. And that is chaos. That's exactly it."

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