I think your point on equity is really important because I feel like it's a part of the conversation that I feel like doesn't get looked at enough, right? We often don't consider what the consequences of building these cities that are so dependent on cars are on people's abilities to access services. And we could also look to traffic the amount of time that people spend stuck in traffic, the health consequences that come with being stuck in cars all the time. There are a whole load of things that we can discuss. The problem is in so much of at least North America, there's not really a great alternative after so many years of designing in car centric ways and providing such palt

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