How to Build a Better Interface for the Making Up

Gepo: I think it's the super important. Oddly, i guess everybody does tow to a certain extent. It's just that people don't talk about it in this way normally. There was one other idea jpo put out, whic was not, i think, unique to him, but jus the framing was quite interesting. Was that idea that we build when wer building. Sofwe were building two applications, the the making up and the shipping p. And the shipping p is the product that we ship to customers. But there's also a sickond p, which is the thing that supports us making the customer facing product.