Early pilots: SHA Wellness and Whoop

How will AI, biometrics, and healthcare thinking redefine hospitality, and what does the future of truly personalized guest experience look like?

In this episode, Dan Ryan sits down with John Duffield, a Speaker at Signal Two and an Advisory Board Member at Radical Innovation. They have a wide-ranging conversation on the intersection of hospitality, healthcare, and emerging technology. Drawing from his patient experience at Cleveland Clinic and his work at the forefront of AI and biometric innovation, John introduces the concept of “living intelligence,” the convergence of AI, sensors, and biometrics that enables environments to adapt in real time to how guests actually feel.

Takeaways:

• Hospitality and healthcare are deeply connected. Both industries serve people during vulnerable moments, and both succeed when personalization, empathy, and care are prioritized. 
• AI combined with biometrics and sensors can create environments that adapt in real time, adjusting lighting, temperature, nutrition, and schedules based on how guests are actually feeling, not static preferences.
• Guests are willing to share personal and biometric data when the value exchange is clear, immediate, and user-controlled. Privacy must be transparent, opt-in, and flexible, more like “airplane mode” than all-or-nothing consent.
• Smaller scale, faster decision-making, and closer guest relationships make independents and luxury properties ideal testing grounds for advanced technology, insights that will eventually scale to larger brands.
• The best tech disappears into the experience, enhancing how guests feel without being noticed. Responsible AI development, clear guardrails, and human-centered design are essential to avoid repeating past digital mistakes.

Quote of the Show:

“Do you want to sit in the status quo and hope that you just survive and thrive? Or do you want to lean into what's next in this next phase of guest experience?" - John Duffield

Links:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnjduffield/ 
• The Signal Two Website: https://thesignaltwo.com/  
• Personal Website:  https://thejohnduffield.com/  
• The Future Patient Website: https://thefuturepatient.com/   

Shout Outs:

• 3:17 - Javits Center, New York https://javitscenter.com/ 
• 3:18 - BDNY (Boutique Design New York) https://bdny.com/ 
• 7:07 - Cleveland Clinic https://my.clevelandclinic.org/ 
• 9:05 - Mayo Clinic https://www.mayoclinic.org/ 
• 9:08 - Memorial Sloan Kettering https://www.mskcc.org/ 
• 10:55 - Hartford Healthcare https://hartfordhealthcare.org/ 
• 12:19 - New York Presbyterian https://www.nyp.org/ 
• 14:17 - Apple Watch https://www.apple.com/watch/ 
• 15:29 - South by Southwest https://sxsw.com/ 
• 18:25 - Whoop https://www.whoop.com/us/en/ 
• 18:27 - Oura Ring https://ouraring.com/ 
• 26:28 - Equinox Hotels https://equinox-hotels.com/ 
• 30:15 - BCG (Boston Consulting Group) https://www.bcg.com/ 
• 30:16 - Google https://www.google.com/ 
• 33:13 - LVMH https://www.lvmh.com/en 
• 33:51  Apple https://www.apple.com/ 
• 34:45 - Pepsi https://www.pepsico.com/ 
• 36:43 - SHA Wellness https://shawellness.com/en/ 
• 42:36 - Snoop Dog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snoop_Dogg 
• 42:37 - Martha Sterwart https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Stewart 
• 42:49 - Hilton https://www.hilton.com/en/ 
• 42:50 - Paris Hilton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Hilton 
• 42:53 - Formula One https://www.formula1.com/ 
• 43:22 - Four Seasons Hotels https://www.fourseasons.com/ 
• 45:56 - ATM Dubai (Arabian Travel Market) https://www.wtm.com/atm/en-gb.html#/ 
• 46:44 - Boeing https://www.boeing.com/ 
• 51:39 - Taylor Swift https://www.taylorswift.com/ 
• 54:05 - Terminator 2: Judgement Day https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103064/ 

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