A, and i also don't think t at there's a choice because, you know, we are a heading to a place that is just getting uglier and uglier for workers. And again, we're seeing that there are folks who are ready to do some heroic things to change that. So now is the time for experimentation, i would say. The dig was produced by alex lewis and recorded at w b ru in providence. Our s coordinators are to mose franke and mariel solomon. Check out our vast archives at the dig radio dot com. Follow us on twitter at the digRadio.