At Burberry, we brought in a cultural anthropologist to study everything that we had done. We doubled the business and said we were going to do it again. The same thing at Apple. But there's a finance report,. There's a supply report, there's an environmental report. And both you actually said, then you have to figure out what the touch points. One way to say this is to say, we like to win, right? And what is it going to take to win? That drive for excellence is what leadership really is about.

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