Could it be argued that this the proliferation of ultra processed like grain products began with good intentions, like to help provide cheap plentiful calories for a rapidly growing population? To me, this is a vital point to that complicates the issue. From the folks who were working on food security, you know, back in the 60s when these policy changes happened. And I would just add when it comes to doctors and we, I think it's tragic. The US medical system literally takes the most dedicated smartest high IQ people in the world to come here to be doctors and then puts them in this system.