RFK Jr. and Vivek have a quality in common that I love and it's that they're willing to talk to people who disagree with them in the media so both of them will go on you know CNN and RFK Jr. has been on Fox and they've both been on all kinds of podcasts that are all over the board. In a normal year this wouldn't be a practical idea but because of the extraordinary situation about both of these candidates I think people would take seriously the challenge or debate now.