What Was the Biggest Moment of Suffering for You in Starting the Show?

i think what's important, and one of the reasons why i focus so much on crisis and struggle, is that implicitly, and how i built this right? The people who come on the show, we know they are successful. We know they have achieved some level of success, not always financial, but they've built something that's out in the world,. That has had some kind of cultural impact. And i think we often default into thinking that these people are super heroes. And that's why I focus so much on those moments of failure, the moments of crisis. You know, when jamies office wondering whether they should take a line of credit against their mortgage and worrying that they're...