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UPSAHL on Pop Songwriting Sessions and the Economics of Touring

The New Music Business with Ari Herstand

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The Bridge of Skin Crawl

I think it's like a mixture of sometimes just by chance, which is why there are six writers on it was because I was working on the production with Captain cuts who did like additional production on it. So whenever we do get stuck, it's always like, let's call up my friend Johnny Shore. And sometimes they'll be like, yeah, I have, I have nothing or they'll have an amazing idea that changes the song completely. It's been really interesting to lean on like having so many people that I trust creatively and like having a fresh set of ears on something is like everything.

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