Policy, policy, policy. We hear all the time from politicians and non-profits about how they plan to influence or change policy. But what does that really mean? And how can it impact your life? In this episode, Jasmine Burton sat down with Michael McAfee and Ashleigh Gardere, Vice President and President of PolicyLink, a national research and action institution working to build a future where everyone can prosper, to talk about policy change: the fine art of convincing the world to stop doing things the hard way.