"When things get shitty and what you realize is how you separate yourself from at least 70% of the fucking crowd is just simply to walk through the gauntlet," he says. "The one year room is loaded with failure And you look around you're like this stuff doesn't work Nobody makes it five year room There's a couple people that have won ... there's some winning going on But you get to the 20 year room of being an entrepreneur People are winning in that damn room."