Elica, is it true you once got the wrapper jelly doughnut to free style about meetings? Ha, ha,. ha, haa, is true. We were, i was interviewing him for my forbes column. You know what he does as he's a wrapper, he's also an improve artist. And we are talking about what improve can add to business and to start ups. So up, i m rap about meetings at the very end of our discussion. What is there to rap about meetingsa, ha, ha, meetings give you beatings. Ye ye. He was like me and you in the zoom. I'm not sure if he would call it his best