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Chris Walker, CEO, Refine Labs

The Exit Five CMO Podcast (Hosted by Dave Gerhardt)

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Creative Problem Solving

"To be ad creative, that looks like b," says Mime. "I've recently seen a gong come through with a lot of thumb stopping copyand creative" He thinks companies should have two streams and a paid in a paid engine. And then try to get those to blend in a way that people enjoy.

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