Sales is a numbers game, that's really the foundation of everything scientific about sales. To get one customer, we need to have about, about, you know, somewhere around 15 to 20 meetings. And what you need to do is to manage the size of the funnel,. Like at every place, but also the, the conversion rates at every place and tune them in the right place. I would say the primary first time learning on the, from an engineer to CEO has been eye opening for many first time CEOs.

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