In that sense, I pervade this universe by unmanifest form, I satchit ananda. In what sense? If I look at earthen pottery, clay pottery, and you tell me it's all pervaded by clay, I will say, okay, I get what you mean. All golden ornaments are pervaded by gold. What do you mean? Where's that satcht ananda? It's an important question. Why is it important? The objection will be this. This is the objection to the old objection to pantheism. Pantheism is a theological, philosophical perspective which says that this universe, this world, this universe is