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224. COP28: Later Is Too Late

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

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The Changing Mood at COP28: Oil and Gas as the New Tobacco

The speakers discuss the changing mood at COP28 and the importance of unexpected voices and unlikely alliances to push for a rapid and just phase-out of fossil fuels. They call for COP28 to be a turning point and preview an upcoming conversation on the politics and process of the event.

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